Warhammer 40K

[Sputryk]

Never got into 40K. Started out with the Role-Play book, joining in with some mates each Sunday. Years later progressed to WFB and started a Chaos Warriors army. Although I did start to paint, I got fed up with that and merely bad battles. Opted for Chaos Warriors (tarnished by Slaanesh) for the Dragon Ogres! I then branched out and bought a special box-set of Blood Dragon Vampire Counts (there were only ever 125 boxes, one per shop and cost a cool £100). 'Built' the skellies but the rest remains boxed away, including the exclusive War Banner that is limited to the special box-sets and the Black Carriage (or whatever it is called). It's been too long since I last took part, but don't have time to re-start just lately and have thought about selling it. Maybe once I retire I can start again...

It is silly money nowadays, though. More especially when they continue to revamp the system every few years, ensuring some of what you have cannot now be used with the army of your choice etc. If I did find the time now to play I would need new Rule and Army Books - I've updated twice in the past and thought that was too much!

[Crunchy]

The Warhammer 40K universe is great. Warhammer 40K as a game is great.

But I wish Game's Workshop would just go totally virtual with it and reproduce the whole game and army building in digital form instead of persisting with RTS gash and suchlike.

The ability to buy exellently rendered and modifiable models as DLC and then being able to use them online utilising the full turn-based rules against other players excites me no end. It would be a mental moneyspinner for GW, far more than the real world hobby.

I wouldn't mind seeing the same thing done with Airfix soldiers either. Buy your virtual army and then play online in a turn-based game set in a back garden. Set your own rules for hiding snipers in the rockery.

Playing Warhammer in real life was always a pain in the backside. Setting up, arguments about rules, finding the time to meet up etc etc. But it would be brilliant as a full-on virtual table-top game. A definite money pit for me.

[Antiriad2097]

The Warhammer 40K universe is great. Warhammer 40K as a game is great.

But I wish Game's Workshop would just go totally virtual with it and reproduce the whole game and army building in digital form instead of persisting with RTS gash and suchlike.

That idea has great potential in a 'play by mail' / Naked War sort of way. Make your move, then wait until your opponent does the same, be that minutes or days later. Its the only way I'd have enough time to play it properly, one slice at a time to get a properly meaty battle going.

[lanky316]

Warhammer Online was originally planned to be like that with a more real time approach to playing battles and turn based for traditionalists (see Blood Bowl). Rumour has it though that Grandma realised that if people were playing online they'd lose sales of miniatures this way. I wonder how it'd work in micropayment format (e.g. you build your army in exactly the same way as you normally would £2 for 20 clanrats for example) but they decided to drop that and when WO was resurrected they kept it traditional MMORPG for simplicity.

At times I really don't think Grandma Wendy thinks things through though. The latest gem being the complete banning of external miniatures from their premises. Really wise after finally releasing Warhammer Ancient Battles 2, release a game then instantly tell customers and any players to bugger off!

[James A]

At times I really don't think Grandma Wendy thinks things through though. The latest gem being the complete banning of external miniatures from their premises. Really wise after finally releasing Warhammer Ancient Battles 2, release a game then instantly tell customers and any players to bugger off![/quote]

This is something ive heard levelled at them several times on different issues. I did hear that they shut down there offical forum a few years ago after criticism of there pricing and that there almost as bad as EA on the issue of second hand sales Part of the reason i never really went to shops after dealing with annoying 10 year olds having to deal with anally retentive staff.

[pforson]

I wonder how it'd work in micropayment format (e.g. you build your army in exactly the same way as you normally would £2 for 20 clanrats for example) but they decided to drop that and when WO was resurrected they kept it traditional MMORPG for simplicity.

It works exactly like that with Magic the Gathering Online, you buy virtual boosters for the same price as the real thing. It seems expensive to me, but I believe Wizards are making a lot of money via the online game.

If Games Workshop offered a similar thing then I'd be very interested. At least it'd mean the war wouldn't have to end everytime mum needs the table cleared for dinner.

[SJ_Sathanas]

I use to build the odd kit. I never really cared for the game but they had some imagainative tanks 'n' what not.

[Sepp Salerno]

Was talking about Blood Bowl in work and this mate of mine piped up he was real into it. The next day he brought in about £2000 worth of lead figure teams, ep packs and the the game itself. I was real shocked as he'd never mentioned it before. He tried showing me how to play - looks fun

[FatTrucker]

The Warhammer 40K universe is great. Warhammer 40K as a game is great.

But I wish Game's Workshop would just go totally virtual with it and reproduce the whole game and army building in digital form instead of persisting with RTS gash and suchlike.

The ability to buy exellently rendered and modifiable models as DLC and then being able to use them online utilising the full turn-based rules against other players excites me no end. It would be a mental moneyspinner for GW, far more than the real world hobby.

I wouldn't mind seeing the same thing done with Airfix soldiers either. Buy your virtual army and then play online in a turn-based game set in a back garden. Set your own rules for hiding snipers in the rockery.

Playing Warhammer in real life was always a pain in the backside. Setting up, arguments about rules, finding the time to meet up etc etc. But it would be brilliant as a full-on virtual table-top game. A definite money pit for me.

Completely agree. Some of my mates that still play it and I have talked about it a lot over the last few years. With their current prices, they're going to have to do it at some point. With the advantage of 3D TV its got all sorts of possibilities.

Have you played Company of Heroes on the PC by the way?. Its RTS rather than turn based but its about as close as you can get to playing with real toy soldiers. By far the best RTS I've played, tactics, terrain and different unit types actually work as they're meant to, everything in the game including all the buildings are fully destructable. Its replaced the Dawn of War games as my all time favourite RTS game.
You can pick up the Gold edition with both the expansion packs included for about a tenner brand new. Worthy purchase if you haven't already tried it.

[James A]

Bringing this thread back from the dead.....

After two conversations with friends ive been bitten by the bug again. Im moving back to Nottingham in a few weeks to start a new job and speaking to a friend in Derby he let on that has was a die hard GW collector. Now ive know this guy a few years and he never let on about it. So after a very long conversation i sort of agreed to lending an army and having a few battles which got me hooked again

Second one was a friend in was in sixth form adding me on Facebook. Turns out hes a manager for GW so cue another long chat about the hobby. Was suprised to find out that GW won't do media interviews with the press, but then again maybe im not with the prices they charge

So after popping into my local shop and seeing the still even more eye wattering prices i had a hour on ebay. It seems that if the GW stuff is finishing on a Saturday afternnon / evening you can pick it up for peanuts. I managed to get three current codexes a Daemon army and a good chunk of a chaos space marine army and a few bits to re do my Radical Daemonhunter army all for less than £100. Also another thing to look out for is spelling mistakes in the listings same as with games (Thats how i got the Daemon army)

[Sega2006]

Ive got a few 40k and Fantasy models about my desk, theres a bit of a cue atm as Im wanting to do some diecast hearse conversions.
Ive also got the Ultramarines movie about but I would only reccomend it if your a die hard fan as tbh its a bit poo in places.

[r0jaws]

When I was in Afghanistan, a mate of mine who's now in the Met, sent me out a squad of space marines with some paints and brushes. It came totally out of the blue as we used to play together as kids but I hadn't touched them in decades. I managed to paint up about 4 of them whilst I was out there, and it inspired me to have a go at some more when I got back. I recently got hold of a mob of Orks to paint up. Not sure if I'll play the table top game much though.
I do enjoy the video games though, the Dawn of War series is my favourite RTS series by far. I also quite liked the video game version of Blood Bowl, both the old PC and modern version.

[crusto]

Playing never interested me, but I spent a few months painting these years ago, I was about 14 or maybe 15 iirc. The set were called Harlequins, and the best figures in there (to paint) were called death jesters. They were all lead, and I had other stuff too but ffs I cant remember them all! I enjoyed it loads while it lasted. Would love to know where they all are now.

[rocky1980]

I never played 40k or warhammer but I did build and paint an army or 3, about 15 years ago, it was expensive then but now !!! I picked up a white dwarf a few months back and for the money its a rip off whats the 40k starter box at now almost £80 !!!! I love the world I read all the 40k books I can get my hands on, I play all the games even the censored ones. Its a shame the THQ 40k mmo is now getting cut down to just a game. that was one of the reasons that they used not to do a sequal to Space Marine because the the mmo was coming out. I have made some really good money over the years picking up games workshop stuff at car boots and selling on for ££££ It very must be still very popular otherwise there would not be as my stores still open. However its sad that it really is not a "pocket money" hobby anymore

[commanderkaiser]

In the past few months I've gotten back into the hobby, I started with trying to finish the Space Marines I had left over from when I did it years ago. I've decided to do an Imperial guard army. I used to do the Lord of the Rings one too but I won't bother with that anymore.

It has gotten quite expensive, I mean it's £35 for the hardback rulebook and around £20 for the codex and you pretty much need these. I was talking to some of the staff in my local shop and said the same and the guy went not really it's always been this much. I was thinking I don't remember it being this expensive, like the magazine is now £4.50 compared to £3 back when I properly started in 03 or 04 something like that. Also he tried to tell me the paints haven't got more expensive but they have done, I checked the prices listed in some of the White Dwarf I kept, the models have gone up in price too as well as all the sets and the like. I mean it was never a cheap hobby to get into but it's certainly more expensive then it ever was.